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弦歌而行：浙江大学信息与电子工程学院60周年院史文集》",[904,924,925],{},"采访日期：2016年暑期",[904,927,928],{},"采访人：2013级电子科学与技术专业本科生 马涵之",[904,930,931,934],{},[908,932,933],{},"正文","：",[904,936,937,938,940],{},"得益于学院的对外交流项目，我和丁力等三位同学在2016年暑期来到美国密苏里科技大学进行科研交流。在学院老师的荐引下，我们三位同学有幸前往加州拜访",[908,939,910],{},"校友，并与其进行了长达三个小时的轻松交谈。段校友很热情，不把我们当外人，我们就海阔天空地随意提问，想办法多角度地了解段校友在大学期间的点滴往事和人生感悟。段校友对我们这些小师妹小师弟不设防，认真回答我们提出的问题，让人很是感动。采访之后，我们以“问和答\"的形式仔细地整理出了采访稿，以尽可能地反映当时的采访原貌，原汁原味地表现段校友的情怀和智慧。",[904,942,943],{},[908,944,945],{},"问：当初您为什么选择到浙大就读？",[904,947,948,951],{},[908,949,950],{},"大道","：我是江西人，浙大离江西比较近。当时高考是考前就填志愿的，我其实不知道填哪儿好，也不知道别人水平怎么样，自己考成什么样。那时刚刚恢复高考，1977年和1978 年我都考了，77年没考上，1978年就继续考，中间隔了半年。北大、清华在江西省招的专业我不喜欢，北大只招地球物理专业，清华招水利专业，这两个专业我都没有填。我看到浙大有无线电电子工程学系，好像很时髦，就报了，报的时候也没有报专业，专业是进去以后分的，电子物理技术听起来就挺神秘的，我就选这个专业了。",[904,953,954],{},[908,955,956],{},"问：你们上大学时有什么课？您特别喜欢哪门课？",[904,958,959,961],{},[908,960,950],{},"：课蛮多的。大一学基础课，有高等数学、普通物理、普通化学、政治、英语，还有体育课、金工实习等。大二开始就有一些专业性较强的课，比如电磁场、电子线路，还有复变函数、数理方程、概率论、数理统计等数学课程。大三后专业课较多，如微波电子学、真空。真空其实蛮高科技的，你要把一个东西抽成真空的，就要用到非常多的科技手段，比如把壁上的气泡给赶出来，就要用到非常多的原理。最简单的例子是灯泡，灯泡里面必须真空，要是里面有氧气的话，灯丝马上烧断了。再复杂一点，就是真空度高的问题，里面真空度高了，那外面压强就大了，抽成真空还是难的，这与我们的专业紧密相关，比如高能粒子加速器里面肯定要真空的，要是里面都是分子，粒子怎么穿得过去啊，所以必须抽空，剩下百分之几的空气，你不可能百分之百的抽光，总会有这样那样的东西在里面。半导体里面有很多这样的东西，线路板里面有很多都要搞真空的。这么多年了，详细的也记不太清了，粗略的、概念的内容还是清楚的。",[904,963,964],{},"谈不上有什么特别喜欢的课，但老师讲课讲得挺好的印象较深的是教复变函数和数理方程的老师，但这个老师后来被调到复旦大学了。这个专业不是我特别想搞的东西，所以后来也没有再考这方面的研究生。",[904,966,967],{},"每个人喜欢的东西不一样。研究生我是去中国人民大学读的，读的是经济学，后来从事的行业也都跟经济有关，当然，跟电子也有关系，做电子产品的研发和销售，比如我现在还做手机。我们的手机卖得蛮好，在国内所占的份额应该算是梃厉害的。但是我们不追求这个，这是一个自然的结果。我不关心别人的份额是多少，但是，我们的份额我是知道的。我们不公布具体的数据，因为我们不是上市公司，不强制我们公布。",[904,969,970],{},[908,971,972],{},"问：您对哪些老师印象最深刻？",[904,974,975,977,978,916,981,984,985,916,988,991],{},[908,976,950],{},"：当时给我们上专业课的老师现在不一定还在上课，大部分老师退休了。跟我比较熟悉的是黄恭宽老师，他肯定不给你们上课了，当然别的老师对学生也蛮好。黄老师给我的印象最深，因为黄老师教的东西对我成长有益，他不是简单地教课本内容，而是经常讲些道理。记得有一次做实验，需要用力拧，我想要拧得更紧一些，结果弹簧被拧出来了。",[908,979,980],{},"黄老师说做事要留有余地啊",[908,982,983],{},"说我最后为了一点好处就冒了这么大的风险","。因为装回去很难，需要费好大劲才装得回去，所以要留一点点余地，用劲到95％就可了，不用追求100%的好处，否则到最后你会失去更多。",[908,986,987],{},"不是所有的事情都要竭尽全力",[908,989,990],{},"最好都留一点余地","。",[904,993,994],{},"所有老师都是很好的，那个时候老师跟同学的关系挺紧密的。跟我们打交道比较多的是周建华老师，他那时候做我们的辅导员，现在已退休。他负责过紫金港新校区的建设，我跟他也比较熟，最近他身体不太好，我挺牵挂他！",[904,996,997],{},[908,998,999],{},"问：您是怎么安排学习的？您当时的兴趣爱好是什么？",[904,1001,1002,1004],{},[908,1003,950],{},"：我没有刻意安排学习，反正该上课就上课，该考试就考试。我平常交作业会比较晚，所以平时分比较低，但是到考试的时候较认真，会突击复习一段时间。那时学风好，不太会有人想作弊。",[904,1006,1007],{},"那个年代的大学生没有太多的兴趣，不像现在，玩的东西多，还有网络。那个时候只能下下围棋，打打桥牌。打桥牌是我在学校里学的，围棋自己本来就会一点，但是下得也不好。我下围棋也不是很花工夫，可能也就业余初段，顶多业余二段。那个时候能玩的东西确实不多，看个电视还要跑到主楼的大教室里，要走10多分钟，主要看个球类比赛，如男排、女排、男足。看男足最关心的是男足冲出亚洲，他们冲不出去啊，现在也很难冲出去。那个时候我们的活动和娱乐确实比较少。",[904,1009,1010],{},[908,1011,1012],{},"问：你们组织过什么活动？",[904,1014,1015,1017],{},[908,1016,950],{},"：我参加的比较少。我原来是1978级的，上了半年学，因为身体的原因就回家了，休学了一年，到了1979年复学。到新班级同学就不熟了，差半年感觉就差好多，虽然大家对我很好，我也喜欢新班级，但一直都觉得自己像个局外人一样，所以参加活动也不太多。毕业实习的时候，我去南京实习。从南京回浙大那一路，我是玩回来的，无锡啊，苏州啊，上海啊，感觉像是旅游过了。那个时候绝对算穷游了，我回学校的时候身上大概只剩一毛钱了。",[904,1019,1020],{},"那个时候一毛钱还能干点事，按当时物价，一个月的消费估计是七八块钱，10块钱左右就勉强能过了。20块钱的生活费绝对是很宽裕了，大家都没钱，当然也就不会出去玩了。",[904,1022,1023],{},[908,1024,1025],{},"问：那时大家比较关注什么？",[904,1027,1028,1030],{},[908,1029,950],{},"：不太记得了。关注考试？好像也不是那么关注，不到考试我都不着急。我有个毛病，上课有时会睡觉，所以成绩也就中等。我们班30个人，我成绩大概排在十七八名，既不在前10名，也不在后10名。比较幸运，考试成绩还可以，一到最后几个礼拜，只要我努努力，还是挺好的。我没挂过科(考试不及格)，只要努力就不应该挂科。如果我努努力，也能考90多分。",[904,1032,1033],{},"我记得学校、系里有足球比赛。我不知道现在还有没有比赛，当时是有的。当时我们班在系里还拿过冠军，,我还当过守门，也不太会，反正球来了就接呗。",[904,1035,1036],{},[908,1037,1038],{},"问：如何给自己设定人生目标？你在大学时的人生感悟是什么？",[904,1040,1041,1043],{},[908,1042,950],{},"：我们上大学的时候，头两年可能认为上大学就是人生的终极目标，上了大学就是天之骄子了，所以进了学校好像突然就一下子茫然了，忙半天也不知道自己在忙啥，发现学的东西也不太感兴趣，觉得不好玩也不开心。",[904,1045,1046,1047,916,1050,1053,1054,916,1057,916,1060,916,1063,991,1066,916,1069,916,1072,991],{},"大概到了大三，",[908,1048,1049],{},"有一天我突然悟到",[908,1051,1052],{},"乐趣是在过程中的","。因为我高考的经历比较特殊，我是往届生，在准备迎考的过程中一直很努力，有个目标在那里，就一直往前走，每天非常充实。等考上大学拿到录取通知书了，在我们那个小地方也算是高考状元了，过400分的人就我一个。听到有人在说：“啊！有个人考了400多分呢。” 我心里很得意啊。到了学校以后，突然发现失去了目标，就没有乐趣了。",[908,1055,1056],{},"后来悟到",[908,1058,1059],{},"人生的乐趣就是在过程当中",[908,1061,1062],{},"需要自己不断地设定目标",[908,1064,1065],{},"而不只是达到某个目标",[908,1067,1068],{},"达到某个目标以后",[908,1070,1071],{},"就要设定新的目标",[908,1073,1074],{},"才会找到乐趣",[904,1076,1077],{},"为什么很多人喜欢玩游戏？游戏容易有目标，达到目标之后马上又有新的目标，所以有个过程。在现实生活当中，这样一个过程是很必要的，比如考硕士、博士，这都不是终极目标，但是这个过程你都可以享受。而且你达到这个目标以后，得马上再有下一个目标，当然需要是你自己喜欢的目标，如果你不喜欢就要避开。如果把考研作为终极目标的话就不合适了。",[904,1079,1080],{},"我自己有过这方面的体验。大学毕业的时候我要考研，在学校里复习了一个暑假，过得很辛苦、很不容易。报名的时候，教室里满墙贴着各个学校的招生简章、专业介绍（那个时候还没有电脑)，我在那里看了三天，一个一个地看，就没有任何一个专业是我想考的。",[904,1082,1083,916,1086,916,1089,916,1092,916,1095,991,1098,916,1101,916,1104,991],{},[908,1084,1085],{},"可能是我想得比较长远：专业与职业相连",[908,1087,1088],{},"不能是某个专业考上就行了",[908,1090,1091],{},"如果这个东西不是以后想干的东西",[908,1093,1094],{},"那考进去之后该怎么办？所以呢",[908,1096,1097],{},"三天以后我就放弃考研了",[908,1099,1100],{},"很多人就奇怪：怎么复习了这么久",[908,1102,1103],{},"复习得这么辛苦",[908,1105,1106],{},"你咋又不考了？是因为我没有想考的专业啊",[904,1108,1109,1110,916,1113,1116],{},"毕业的时候，很多人问我将来的打算是什么，我说：“如果你们哪天听见我又考研究生了，你也就不用问我混得怎样了，肯定是混得不好，表明我不喜欢所处的环境，所以只能选择继续考研。”后来我确实考研了。因为，我毕业被分配到北京后，不满意所在的工作环境，就考了人大的研究生，彻底换了个方向和行业，我不搞技术了。我不是说搞技术有什么不好，",[908,1111,1112],{},"只是每个人喜欢的东西确实不一样",[908,1114,1115],{},"我觉得技术激发不了自己的兴趣","。这算是我在人生过程中学到的一个东西：乐趣是在过程当中的。",[904,1118,1119,1120,1122,1124,1126],{},"还有一个感悟我觉得蛮重要的。大三的时候，也不知道是我在哪看到，还是谁说的一句话，叫作“",[913,1121,17],{"href":915},[908,1123,916],{},[913,1125,22],{"href":919},"”。",[904,1128,1129,916,1132,916,1135,991,1140,916,1143,916,1146,991,1149,916,1158,916,1161,916,1164,991,1167,916,1170,991,1173,916,1178,991,1184,991],{},[908,1130,1131],{},"人总是会犯错的",[908,1133,1134],{},"但很多人不知道什么是对的事情",[908,1136,1137,1138],{},"什么是",[913,1139,22],{"href":919},[908,1141,1142],{},"你要坚持什么？错的事情一定不能坚持",[908,1144,1145],{},"必须改；对的事情",[908,1147,1148],{},"要坚持",[908,1150,1151,1152,1154,1155,1157],{},"坚持的意思就是你在",[913,1153,17],{"href":915},",在",[913,1156,22],{"href":919},"的过程当中",[908,1159,1160],{},"你会犯很多错误",[908,1162,1163],{},"会吃很多亏",[908,1165,1166],{},"这也是一个学习的过程",[908,1168,1169],{},"然后呢",[908,1171,1172],{},"你要去坚持",[908,1174,1175,1176],{},"因为如果想要",[913,1177,17],{"href":915},[908,1179,1180,1181,1183],{},"你就要接受在",[913,1182,17],{"href":915},"的过程中有可能会犯错误",[908,1185,1186],{},"这个感悟对我一生影响非常大",[904,1188,1189],{},"我曾受浙大校方邀请，为毕业生做过毕业典礼演讲，当时是在大操场上，学生乱哄哄的，给我印象特别不好，但我还是说了三点：",[904,1191,1192,916,1197],{},[908,1193,1194,1195],{},"第一点就是",[913,1196,17],{"href":915},[908,1198,1199,1201],{},[913,1200,22],{"href":919},"；",[904,1203,1204,916,1207],{},[908,1205,1206],{},"第二点是“胸无大志”",[908,1208,1209],{},"就是你要踏踏实实去做你喜欢的事情；",[904,1211,1212,916,1219,1225],{},[908,1213,1214,1215,1218],{},"还有一点是要做",[913,1216,211],{"href":1217},"\u002Fzhengzhi","的人",[908,1220,1221,1222,1224],{},"做",[913,1223,211],{"href":1217},"的人就是心里头比较坦荡","。整天耍小聪明，其实是很难受的。（你们这些还没有毕业的，可能是感受不到）。",[904,1227,1228,916,1231,916,1234,916,1237,916,1240,916,1243,916,1246,916,1249,916,1252,916,1255,991,1258,916,1261,991,1264,991,1267,916,1270,916,1273,916,1276,916,1279,916,1282,916,1285,991,1290,916,1293,916,1296,991],{},[908,1229,1230],{},"很多人一辈子自认为很聪明",[908,1232,1233],{},"不说一辈子了",[908,1235,1236],{},"就说半辈子吧",[908,1238,1239],{},"几十年来一直在挣扎",[908,1241,1242],{},"做每一个选择的时候看的都是眼前的利益",[908,1244,1245],{},"所以一直在来来回回兜圈子",[908,1247,1248],{},"没有长远的考虑",[908,1250,1251],{},"没有对错",[908,1253,1254],{},"没有是非",[908,1256,1257],{},"只有利益",[908,1259,1260],{},"几十年后",[908,1262,1263],{},"你会看见眼光差异带来的人的差异是非常巨大的",[908,1265,1266],{},"做企业也是一样",[908,1268,1269],{},"我觉得做任何事情",[908,1271,1272],{},"不管做哪个行业",[908,1274,1275],{},"当教授也好",[908,1277,1278],{},"做研究也好",[908,1280,1281],{},"搞技术也好",[908,1283,1284],{},"都是要看得很远",[908,1286,1287,1288],{},"要选择",[913,1289,17],{"href":915},[908,1291,1292],{},"如果是错的事情",[908,1294,1295],{},"要尽早发现",[908,1297,1298],{},"尽早结束",[904,1300,1301,1302,916,1305,991,1308,916,1311,916,1314,991],{},"这是我在大学里面得到的一个很重要的体会。不是每个人都知道这个道理的。",[908,1303,1304],{},"很多人知道要坚持",[908,1306,1307],{},"坚持啥他就不知道了",[908,1309,1310],{},"要坚持就要容忍错误",[908,1312,1313],{},"什么样的错误可以容忍？做错的事情",[908,1315,1316],{},"它必然会带来错误的结果",[904,1318,1319,916,1322,991,1325,916,1328,916,1331,916,1334,916,1337,916,1340,991,1343,991,1346,916,1349,991,1352,916,1355,916,1358,916,1361,916,1364,916,1367,991],{},[908,1320,1321],{},"比方说企业",[908,1323,1324],{},"坑蒙拐骗是绝对不能做的事情",[908,1326,1327],{},"你想想",[908,1329,1330],{},"一个企业如果把能赚到钱作为终极目标",[908,1332,1333],{},"就会认为蒙钱也是行的",[908,1335,1336],{},"所以也就没有是非了",[908,1338,1339],{},"然而蒙着蒙着",[908,1341,1342],{},"最后就垮了",[908,1344,1345],{},"很多企业垮了都不知道是什么原因垮的",[908,1347,1348],{},"这样做企业有点像小偷",[908,1350,1351],{},"被抓到了只会觉得偷技不够好",[908,1353,1354],{},"如果这样想",[908,1356,1357],{},"那下回偷的时候会更精",[908,1359,1360],{},"会偷得更大",[908,1362,1363],{},"被抓起来后也会判罪更重",[908,1365,1366],{},"这不就是永远总结不出错误的原因来了吗？如果终于总结出来偷东西不对,哪怕偷技再高也从此不偷了",[908,1368,1369],{},"才表明悟对了",[904,1371,1372],{},"那些偷技很高的人肯定是很聪明的，如果把聪明用到做正道的事情上，30年以后肯定也很厉害，所以这是一个很大的道理，这种大道理愿意听的人很少。",[904,1374,1375,1376,1379,1380,991,1383,1386],{},"当然了，有成就的人本来就比较少。但是，总会有人去想这个东西，总会有人想得很长远。",[908,1377,1378],{},"我们做的每一件事情都跟我们20年以后","、",[908,1381,1382],{},"30年以后有关联",[908,1384,1385],{},"想得长远些肯定会不一样啊","。比方说你喜欢教书，那你肯定会成为一个很好的老师，因为你喜欢，你享受，那么你就会想尽各种各样的方法让学生明白你教的东西，想办法让学生将来有用处，而不是让他们只是考好试，出了学校就不管了，如果只是这样，将来学生也不会感激你。",[904,1388,1389,916,1392,916,1395,916,1398,916,1401,991,1404,916,1407,1379,1410,1379,1413,1379,1416,916,1419,916,1422,1379,1425,991],{},[908,1390,1391],{},"大学那么多年",[908,1393,1394],{},"我记得最深的是黄恭宽老师跟我讲的那句话：“任何一个人",[908,1396,1397],{},"他最后选择职业的时候",[908,1399,1400],{},"如果想得很长远的话",[908,1402,1403],{},"他就会有所差异",[908,1405,1406],{},"”这个很大的差异你不知道在哪一刻会对你有所决定",[908,1408,1409],{},"包括在选专业的时候",[908,1411,1412],{},"在选学校的时候",[908,1414,1415],{},"在选工作的时候",[908,1417,1418],{},"在选工作地点的时候",[908,1420,1421],{},"当然也包括在选择男女朋友的时候",[908,1423,1424],{},"就得想这个人能不能长久地相处",[908,1426,1427],{},"能不能够结婚",[904,1429,1430],{},[908,1431,1432],{},"问：在读书时有没有感到特别遗憾的事？",[904,1434,1435,1437],{},[908,1436,950],{},"：没什么特别遗憾的事。那时候条件比较差一点，电脑刚出现还没普及。我们上大学的时候还没有PC，学的还是大型计算机。我们学的语言是FORTRAN，我先学的是BASIC，BASIC我觉得很好学，因为它是直白的东西，后来又学了FORTRAN，学的是一头雾水，又没有练习，计算机就上过一堂课，可能也就45分钟，还没搞明白怎么回事就下课了，下课后没法碰到计算机，所以我对计算机一直都很陌生。这对那个时候的我们也谈不上是遗憾，因为人总是处在某个年代。再过30年，你们会发现原来学过的东西又不行了，也不用30年，按照现在这个知识更新的速度，5年就够了。",[904,1439,1440,916,1443,916,1446,916,1449,916,1452,991,1455,916,1458,916,1463,916,1467,916,1470,916,1473,991,1476,916,1479,991,1482,916,1485,991],{},[908,1441,1442],{},"所以",[908,1444,1445],{},"在学校里",[908,1447,1448],{},"最重要的不是你学到的知识",[908,1450,1451],{},"而是你掌握的学习方法和人生感悟",[908,1453,1454],{},"包括我刚才讲到的那些道理",[908,1456,1457],{},"比如",[908,1459,1460,1461],{},"你要",[913,1462,17],{"href":915},[908,1464,1465],{},[913,1466,22],{"href":919},[908,1468,1469],{},"这个比什么都重要",[908,1471,1472],{},"包括要享受整个过程",[908,1474,1475],{},"而不只是追求某个结果",[908,1477,1478],{},"结果当然重要",[908,1480,1481],{},"但是结果没有你想象的那么重要",[908,1483,1484],{},"关键是要找到自己享受的事情",[908,1486,1487],{},"这个对于学生来讲还是很重要的",[904,1489,1490,1491,1494,1495,916,1498,1501],{},"我当年一直在想：是天之骄子了，应该很开心，应该觉得自己很了不起，但怎么一点乐趣都没有呢？为什么还老觉得整天都闷闷不乐呢？也不知道整天在忙什么，也想不起来想要看的书，作业也经常晚交，但是我从来不抄作业。",[908,1492,1493],{},"我会对照我的思考过程和别人的思考过程","。那时教材比较糟糕，也没有标准答案，我们做了习题，都不知道对错。",[908,1496,1497],{},"思考过程给我带来了乐趣",[908,1499,1500],{},"还带给我让自己满意的成绩","。像量子物理，现在不记得具体知识点了，但是一些大逻辑的东西还是记得的，比如熵定律。当时有人说要发明永动机，我第一直觉就是绝对不信，因为一直转不可能啊，不符合熵定律的，要这样的话这个世界就乱了。",[904,1503,1504,916,1507,916,1510,916,1513,916,1516,991,1519,916,1522,916,1525,916,1528,991],{},[908,1505,1506],{},"我感兴趣的东西是非常少的",[908,1508,1509],{},"我做企业也好",[908,1511,1512],{},"做投资也好",[908,1514,1515],{},"做很多事情都有个特点",[908,1517,1518],{},"就是专注",[908,1520,1521],{},"专注可以排掉杂音",[908,1523,1524],{},"排掉杂音以后还有个很重要的前提就是信念",[908,1526,1527],{},"就是要相信一些东西",[908,1529,1530],{},"坚持走下去",[904,1532,1533,1534,916,1537,916,1540,916,1543,916,1546,916,1549,991],{},"在学校里建立起的这些东西对我这一辈子影响非常大。我所领悟到的道理不一定是跟老师学的，老师基本上就是教课，能教这些东西的较少。据说现在学生要想见老师有点难了，因为学校太大了，人也太多了。",[908,1535,1536],{},"当然了",[908,1538,1539],{},"在学校学习",[908,1541,1542],{},"最重要的还是在于你自己",[908,1544,1545],{},"在于跟同学交流",[908,1547,1548],{},"也在于跟老师的交流",[908,1550,1551],{},"以及与所有人的交往",[904,1553,1554],{},[908,1555,1556],{},"问：您为什么想到要捐款？",[904,1558,1559,1561],{},[908,1560,950],{},"：赚钱多的人要承担更多的社会责任，钱多了对自己的用处也不大。母校毕竟我待过，对它有感情，觉得给它比较放心。当年的浙大老师都还在，还有同学在，我觉得他们应该不会乱花。",[904,1563,1564],{},"总体来讲，我觉得他们还蛮好的，尤其是我们后来建的那个平安基金，运作得相当好。在信电系建这个基金我是挺赞同的，最早提出的是杨冬晓，他是我同学，当年也是我比较好的朋友。考研的时候，我们两个一块在学校复习，然后他考了我没考。他读书成绩是比较好的，在我们同班同学里他算最小的，我比他大三岁，他确实是读书比较钻研的人，也有可能是比较小，所以他也没有别的想法，反正就是爱上进、要读书，他也是比较腼腆的一个人。",[904,1566,1567],{},"（某同学们插话:“他现在上课是很生动的，还获得了永平奖教金，我们都喜欢上他的课。”）",[904,1569,1570,1572],{},[908,1571,950],{},"：已经生动了啊？那他进步了，真是祝贺他！我说的是那个时候，现在30多年过去了，人肯定是会改变的。他管的平安基金，我觉得特别有系统，每一分钱花在哪儿都有章可循，并且用得很得体，因为还要帮老师保密，谁用了这个钱是不好公开出来的，只能很有限的几个人知道。",[904,1574,1575],{},"杨冬晓首提平安基金，说有些老师年纪大退休了，虽然有国家医疗保险，但是要用比较好、比较贵的药，国家不一定会给报销，他们自己又负担不起，如果有这么一个基金可以帮他们就好了。我说那我们就搞一个吧，就搞了这么一个平安基金。当然平安基金还可包括其他一些开支，比如支持退休老师们搞活动。就是让这些老师，尤其是退休的老师开心一点。现在的退休老师很多都是我们当年的老师，以后的老师也都能享受这个基金的好处了。杨冬晓管得好的原因就是他管得比较细，很明确。有些钱出去了以后虽然我跟不到，搞不清楚，但我总体相信浙大。",[904,1577,1578],{},[908,1579,1580],{},"问：当时这个平安基金除了退休的老师，您还加了三分部的卢医生？",[904,1582,1583,1585],{},[908,1584,950],{},"：因为卢医生当年就是我们的医生。我们那个时候医务室有两个医生，我只记得卢医生。那个时候生个病，无依无靠的，离家又远，不像现在你还可以打个电话，那个时候打个电话可费劲了，一看医生态度好，“安慰”很大。我觉得卢医生对学生挺好的，卢医生应该也被加上。",[904,1587,1588],{},[908,1589,1590],{},"问：平安基金是您倡议的吗？",[904,1592,1593,1595],{},[908,1594,950],{},"：其实也不是我倡议的，我只是支持。我给平安基金许下了承诺，就是别人捐多少我就配多少，最后总共大概是60万美元或者是600万元人民币我不记得了。反正基金运行也不错，当时大家说过的话也都一直都在起作用。没有遇到过什么困难。",[904,1597,1598],{},[908,1599,1600],{},"问：您所在的班级捐赠很积极，是不是受到了您的影响？",[904,1602,1603,1605],{},[908,1604,950],{},"：没有人给我说过有这个效应，我也不知道我们班里捐了多少。我只知道我们班里面有些人捐款挺积极。我们公司系统的几个人，我有时也劝他们捐点，反正他们也有实力，所以就跟着一块捐了。陈明永也捐了，蒋晓兰、陈智勇也捐了。但是这个东西无所谓钱多钱少，哪怕象征性地捐一点。",[904,1607,1608],{},[908,1609,1610],{},"问：您认为，校友除了捐赠以外，还有什么能为母校母系做的事情？",[904,1612,1613,1615,1616,916,1619,1379,1622,991,1625,916,1628,916,1631,1634,1635,916,1638,991],{},[908,1614,950],{},"：每个人的情况都不一样，要看每个人的具体情况了。但是我认为这不是一个必要的东西，只要认为与母校有联系、有必要，就做。学生毕业离开学校后，其实和学校就没有太大的关系了。",[908,1617,1618],{},"与母校的感情产生关系的",[908,1620,1621],{},"是那些人",[908,1623,1624],{},"那些地方",[908,1626,1627],{},"如果回去都找不到原来能够联系的东西",[908,1629,1630],{},"原来的东西都不在了",[908,1632,1633],{},"我们就无法产生什么感情","。我现在回去还能见到杨冬晓。杨冬晓和我讲的时候，我就会很认真地听，因为有关联的东西在里头。",[908,1636,1637],{},"所以一个人能为母校母系做啥",[908,1639,1640],{},"完全取决于这些东西",[904,1642,1643,1644,916,1647,916,1650,991],{},"我们之间的师生关系还是蛮好的。周建华老师在我们毕业以后还来看过我们，不是因为你有钱了他来看你。那时候大家还是穷学生，他来北京出差，就把同学叫过来见见面，这不就是联络感情了嘛。这东西并不是谁欠谁的，他也不欠我，我也不欠他。给你举个例子吧，有一次北方某个校友会的人找到我，希望我能给他们捐钱。我说你知道我是谁吗？当然那时候公司已经蛮有名了。我问他：你除了知道我有钱以外，你还知道啥？他啥都不知道。他不知道我哪个系毕业的，也不知道我学什么，他只知道我有钱。",[908,1645,1646],{},"所以能为母校母系做什么",[908,1648,1649],{},"取决于和母校母系的联系",[908,1651,1652],{},"纯粹属于感情和缘分的东西",[904,1654,1655],{},[908,1656,1657],{},"问：您对大学生创业有什么看法？",[904,1659,1660,1662,1663,916,1666,1669],{},[908,1661,950],{},"：我从来没鼓励过在读大学生创业，甚至不鼓励创业。为什么呢，因为你需要创业的时候，你必然会去创，这是一个水到渠成的过程，不要为创业而去创。你说你有一个很好的想法，别人都很喜欢，所以你要把它变成一个企业，变成一个公司。",[908,1664,1665],{},"但是如果只是为了当一个老板而去创业",[908,1667,1668],{},"那多半都会很惨","。你可以往回看，大学生创业不是现在的事情了，好多年前就有。那时候创业的大学生现在能有几个好的？我不反对大学期间去做一些生意，建立一些创业观念，但是不能把这个作为一个目标。",[904,1671,1672,916,1675,991,1678,916,1681,916,1684,991,1687,916,1690,991,1693,916,1696,991],{},[908,1673,1674],{},"苹果公司的CEO Tim Cook在某所高校做了一个毕业典礼的演讲",[908,1676,1677],{},"就是说你要找到自己的北斗星",[908,1679,1680],{},"你要知道什么是对的事情",[908,1682,1683],{},"然后你要一直朝那个方向走",[908,1685,1686],{},"那么几十年之后会有好的结果",[908,1688,1689],{},"这个东西不一定要毕业的时候想",[908,1691,1692],{},"上学的时候就可以去想了",[908,1694,1695],{},"只要心里真有想法",[908,1697,1698],{},"暂时失利或者错一步两步也是没关系的",[904,1700,1701,916,1704,916,1707,991,1710,991,1713,916,1716,916,1719,991,1722,916,1727,991],{},[908,1702,1703],{},"《功夫熊猫》你们一定都看过",[908,1705,1706],{},"第二部说的就是你不一定会有一个好的开始",[908,1708,1709],{},"但是决定未来的不是你的开始",[908,1711,1712],{},"我对这句话蛮有感触的",[908,1714,1715],{},"创业这个东西呢",[908,1717,1718],{},"该创的时候就去创",[908,1720,1721],{},"不要以为只要是大学生就该去创业",[908,1723,1724,1725],{},"我们需要",[913,1726,17],{"href":915},[908,1728,1729],{},[913,1730,22],{"href":919},[904,1732,1733,1735],{},[913,1734,22],{"href":919},"需要许多技能，但技能这个东西呢，学校里并不全教你，只是教你一部分，比方说学习方法。然后你得有好的成绩，到社会上别人看你成绩不错，就会放心让你去做某件事情，即使你不会，只要你去做了，能力就提高了。所以在学校里学习成绩不能太糟糕，人家一看成绩这么糟糕，第一印象就是这个人一定没有纪律性。如果你的成绩还可以，又有一个特长，比方说围棋下得特别好，乒乓球打得特别好，那么人家就会觉得这个人还是有毅力的，虽然成绩中等，但还是有两下子的。如果你是一个肯学习又会学习的人，那么三五年之后就厉害了。如果你啥都不行，人家怎么会用你？不用你你不就永远都没有机会了吗？端盘子还需要有水平呢，一般人端两下可能就倒了，能端得那么平衡就很不容易。当然,不能被专长所束缚。比如说，喜欢弹钢琴，不是说弹不到朗朗的水平就不好了，只要是想弹，很享受弹琴的过程就好了。如果你不是很享受，又想通过弹钢琴赚钱。那么日子会过得不容易。",[904,1737,1738,1739,1742,1743,1746],{},"沃伦·",[908,1740,1741],{},"巴菲特","的一家子公司，每年开股东大会的时候，第二天他会邀请一帮人和他一起吃顿饭。我记得有一回和我同一桌的有一女的，大概四五十岁的样子。我想被老巴叫过去的人，总是有点特长的。我就问她常来吗，她说她第一次来，是个瑜伽老师，她就喜欢瑜伽。我问她为什么来，她说她父亲是老巴最早的股东，现在她父亲过世了，那么她就来了。她继承了她父亲的遗产，但是她依然还是瑜伽老师。一个瑜伽老师也没多少收入，但她就非常享受。能和老巴吃饭的人，身价都不菲，如",[908,1744,1745],{},"比尔·盖茨","、芝加哥大学的校长等。",[904,1748,1749],{},"我不是说教钢琴不好，但是如果沉溺于某个技能的话就不好了，这也是我以前在想的。我绝对不能去当一个出租车司机，这样会整天开车，没时间去想别的事情。我也不做餐厅,因为餐厅要买菜啊，要这个要那个，当然能做成麦当劳那样也很好。",[904,1751,1752,916,1755,916,1758,916,1761,991,1764,916,1767,916,1770,991],{},[908,1753,1754],{},"所以你需要有一个“不为清单”",[908,1756,1757],{},"你应该早早地列一个这样的清单",[908,1759,1760],{},"碰到所列的事情就要把它排除掉",[908,1762,1763],{},"这样你才能聚焦在你想做的事情上",[908,1765,1766],{},"做喜欢的事呢",[908,1768,1769],{},"你就会很享受",[908,1771,1772],{},"就会很努力",[904,1774,1775,1776,916,1779,916,1782,1785,1786,916,1789,916,1792,991],{},"在我们那个年代，没有太多的选择，既然到了那个地方，那你就喜欢你做的事情吧，不然不就是和自己过不去吗？这会有两种结果：",[908,1777,1778],{},"一种是你确实发现自己很喜欢",[908,1780,1781],{},"那你就享受它了；另一种是你发现你确实不喜欢",[908,1783,1784],{},"那么你就需要做出改变","。我看有的人做不喜欢的事情，但一干就是二三十年，我觉得这些人属于想不开的那种，属于害怕改变的那种。我可以举个简单的例子，当年我刚去广东工作的时候，那时候有个公司叫星河音响，现在那个公司在不在我不知道了。那一个小的民营企业，那一年招了50个研究生，100个本科生，一个小企业哪能容得下那么多人。我在那里待了几个月就跑了，我觉得这是我不应该继续做的事情了，我需要做出改变。",[908,1787,1788],{},"我不知道接下来能不能找到自己喜欢做的事情",[908,1790,1791],{},"但我一定要先走",[908,1793,1794],{},"所以我就到了小霸王",[904,1796,1797,1798,1801,1802,1804,1805,1808],{},"那时候大家天天见面，天天一起打游戏。有个同事从澳门买了一台",[908,1799,1800],{},"任天堂","的游戏机借给我们玩了几天。我对",[908,1803,1800],{},"游戏是有感情的。我一玩游戏状态就好，所以我真正起家是从游戏开始的。有意思的是，这家公司大家都想离开（指星河），我走了两年以后，",[908,1806,1807],{},"小霸王","都全国闻名了，然后我回去过一趟，发现当年说要走的人并没真的走。我说你们这些人脑子坏了吗，两年前都说要走了怎么到现在还没走？他们说没有找到合适的地方。",[904,1810,1811,916,1814,991,1817,916,1820,991,1823,991,1826,916,1829,991],{},[908,1812,1813],{},"所以错的事情要尽快停止",[908,1815,1816],{},"停止了不管要付出多大的代价都是最小的代价",[908,1818,1819],{},"一发现这是不对的事情",[908,1821,1822],{},"你就要马上停手",[908,1824,1825],{},"我觉得很多人做不到这点",[908,1827,1828],{},"大多数人做不到",[908,1830,1831],{},"但是做到的人往往就会做得不错",[904,1833,1834],{},[908,1835,1836],{},"问：如果一件事情谈不上喜欢，也谈不上厌恶，那还要坚持下去吗？",[904,1838,1839,1841,1842,916,1845,916,1848,991,1851,916,1854,991],{},[908,1840,950],{},"：这完全取决于你自己。说要去找喜欢的事情可一辈子都找不到，那可能就是你的问题了，因为这说明没有什么事情是你能坚持下来的。不管你做喜欢的事情也好，不喜欢的事情也好，中间都会有很多很多的困难。",[908,1843,1844],{},"为什么做喜欢的事情能做好呢？因为你能扛过去",[908,1846,1847],{},"但是对于不喜欢的事情",[908,1849,1850],{},"可能就放弃了",[908,1852,1853],{},"如果所有的事情都选择放弃",[908,1855,1856],{},"那就是你的问题了",[904,1858,1859,916,1862,991,1865,916,1868,1871],{},[908,1860,1861],{},"找不到喜欢的事情很悲哀",[908,1863,1864],{},"实际上大部分人都是这样",[908,1866,1867],{},"如果你碰到这种情况",[908,1869,1870],{},"也不要责怪自己","。但是有些人能找到，比如说你很享受家庭生活，那就找一份不太忙的工作，每天回家带带孩子，做做家务。",[904,1873,1874,916,1877,916,1880,991,1883,916,1886,916,1889,916,1892,991,1895,916,1898,916,1901,916,1904,991],{},[908,1875,1876],{},"所谓成功",[908,1878,1879],{},"不是说要多有钱",[908,1881,1882],{},"要有多少人围着你采访",[908,1884,1885],{},"我已经很久没接受媒体采访了",[908,1887,1888],{},"你现在媒体上看到关于我的东西很多都是别人编的",[908,1890,1891],{},"这些材料千篇一律",[908,1893,1894],{},"都是10多年前的旧材料",[908,1896,1897],{},"这两年我们公司的手机起来了",[908,1899,1900],{},"所以关于我的报道可能会多一些",[908,1902,1903],{},"但那些都是东抄西抄的",[908,1905,1906],{},"都跟我没关系",[904,1908,1909],{},[908,1910,1911],{},"问：不懂不碰？在生活中也是这样吗？",[904,1913,1914,1916,1917,916,1920,916,1923,1926,1927,1930,1931,1929,1934,916,1937,916,1940,916,1943,916,1946,1949,1950,1953,1954,1956],{},[908,1915,950],{},"：生活这个东西，关键看你享受什么。",[908,1918,1919],{},"不懂的东西你可以去尝试",[908,1921,1922],{},"但不能拿生命去尝试",[908,1924,1925],{},"投资也是一样","。比方说滑雪，如果你不会滑雪，跑到最高的地方扎下去，撞树了怪谁？如果你喜欢，得一点点来，一点点提高，得要清楚风险在哪儿，乐趣在哪儿。有人说他一生做了很多冒险的事情，比方说把钱都投给了",[908,1928,1929],{},"苹果","。我说冒险的事情不应该做。赌场里100万元一放，想要变成200万元，那下一把就没了。",[908,1932,1933],{},"我投",[908,1935,1936],{},"是因为我了解",[908,1938,1939],{},"我知道他强在哪里",[908,1941,1942],{},"知道它3年",[908,1944,1945],{},"5年",[908,1947,1948],{},"20年之后还是强在哪里","。我也了解",[908,1951,1952],{},"谷歌","，所以我有点",[908,1955,1952],{},"的股票很正常。",[904,1958,1959],{},[908,1960,1961],{},"问：我有好多人生观的道理不能完全想通，就很纠结，能否帮我理一下思路？",[904,1963,1964,1966,1967,916,1972,916,1977,991,1980,916,1983,991],{},[908,1965,950],{},"：这是一个年龄过程。",[908,1968,1969,1970],{},"我看到这个“",[913,1971,17],{"href":915},[908,1973,1974,1976],{},[913,1975,22],{"href":919},"”的道理是在大三的时候",[908,1978,1979],{},"但是我真的搞明白或许是20年之后",[908,1981,1982],{},"就算你被我点醒了",[908,1984,1985],{},"你可能得花个5年或10年时间去理解",[904,1987,1988,1989,1991,1992,1994,1995,1997,1998,2000,2001,2003],{},"我跟别人讲投资的时候，告诉他们买公司股票要看公司的未来。如果现在问我股票哪只好，那我干脆把我口袋里的钱给你算了。",[908,1990,1800],{},"这个公司当时市值比",[908,1993,599],{},"还低，但我觉得这个公司以后能挣钱，我就买了，甚至我都没认真看它的业绩。你看",[908,1996,1800],{},"有一次涨了一个多礼拜，你能理解吗？你不能理解。你会买吗？也不会买，因为你坐不住啊，明天涨了五块钱你就卖了。当初我买",[908,1999,599],{},"的时候，别人不明白我为什么要买",[908,2002,599],{},"。我自己是做游戏出身的，我知道它的市场有多大。当时买的时候一块多钱，现在200多元。当然我没拿那么久，我赚了大概一百三四十倍。",[904,2005,2006,2007,916,2010,991,2013,916,2016,916,2019,2022],{},"你如果不了解你买的东西，你不可能拿到一百倍，能拿到一倍就不错了。这个东西从哪儿学来？",[908,2008,2009],{},"首先学校不教这个东西",[908,2011,2012],{},"到了一定年龄你就会慢慢去感悟",[908,2014,2015],{},"有所为有所不为",[908,2017,2018],{},"这是道教几千年的东西了",[908,2020,2021],{},"就是聚焦啊","。现在提倡多元化，我们公司就蛮聚焦的，就算时间长了会有发散，大家说你又走偏了，你可以马上又回来。",[904,2024,2025,1379,2031,991,2036,916,2046,916,2051,916,2054,991,2057,916,2060,991],{},[908,2026,2027,2028],{},"我们提倡",[913,2029,5],{"href":2030},"\u002Fbenfen",[908,2032,2033],{},[913,2034,12],{"href":2035},"\u002Fpingchangxin",[908,2037,2038,2040,2041,2043,2044],{},[913,2039,5],{"href":2030},"就是要",[913,2042,17],{"href":915},"和",[913,2045,22],{"href":919},[908,2047,2048,2050],{},[913,2049,12],{"href":2035},"就是想我们当年为什么要做这个",[908,2052,2053],{},"我们有没有走偏？我们要问自己：到底在干什么？所以要一直想这是不是件对的事情",[908,2055,2056],{},"而不是去想是不是有利益的",[908,2058,2059],{},"对的事情就要做下去",[908,2061,2062],{},"不对的事情就要赶紧停下来",[904,2064,2065],{},[908,2066,2067],{},"问15：您对大学生有什么寄语？",[904,2069,2070,2072],{},[908,2071,950],{},"：就像我之前说的，找到你的北斗星，你们可以去找找Tim Cook的演讲，我忘了标题是什么。我自己给他起的标题是：找到你的北斗星。",[904,2074,2075,2076,1379,2079,916,2082,1379,2085,916,2088,916,2093,2096],{},"别人都问我有什么技能，我从来不讲技能，因为技能这个东西都是要自己学。比方说打高尔夫，我会告诉你打高尔夫的体会。",[908,2077,2078],{},"一杆打得远",[908,2080,2081],{},"打得近都没关系",[908,2083,2084],{},"一杆打得好",[908,2086,2087],{},"打得差也没关系",[908,2089,2090,2091],{},"要有",[913,2092,12],{"href":2035},[908,2094,2095],{},"一杆一杆地打","。很多人上一杆打糟了，下一杆就想打好一点、打远一点，想把它弥补回来。",[904,2098,2099],{},"有的人做生意不顺，想下一单夺回来，所以冒更大的风险，然后又砸了，很多人都是这样将企业做死的。",[904,2101,2102],{},"【本文完】",{"title":2104,"searchDepth":15,"depth":15,"links":2105},"",[],"md",{},true,"\u002Fdao\u002Fspeeches\u002Fduanyongping-2016nianzheda60zhounianzhuanfang",{"title":373,"description":375},"2016年浙大60周年专访｜段永平投资问答录","dao\u002Fspeeches\u002Fduanyongping-2016nianzheda60zhounianzhuanfang","dfzjf-vLj4otraKMvGnMe6q86kGPPg_eZHhAkx77t5A","dao",[2116,2117,2118,2119,2120,2121,2122,2123,2124,2125,2126,2127,2128,2129,2130,2131,2132,2133,2134,2135,2136,2137,2138,2139,2140,2141,2142,2143,2144,2145,2146,2147,2148,2149,2150,2151,2152,2153,2154,2155,2156,2157,2158,2159,2160,2161],{"title":420,"slug":421,"type":424,"volume":425,"volumeOrder":9,"chapterOrder":9,"order":423},{"title":432,"slug":433,"type":424,"volume":425,"volumeOrder":9,"chapterOrder":15,"order":435},{"title":441,"slug":442,"type":424,"volume":425,"volumeOrder":9,"chapterOrder":20,"order":444},{"title":450,"slug":451,"type":424,"volume":425,"volumeOrder":9,"chapterOrder":25,"order":453},{"title":459,"slug":460,"type":424,"volume":425,"volumeOrder":9,"chapterOrder":30,"order":462},{"title":464,"slug":465,"type":424,"volume":425,"volumeOrder":9,"chapterOrder":35,"order":467},{"title":473,"slug":474,"type":424,"volume":425,"volumeOrder":9,"chapterOrder":45,"order":476},{"title":478,"slug":479,"type":424,"volume":425,"volumeOrder":9,"chapterOrder":50,"order":481},{"title":483,"slug":484,"type":424,"volume":425,"volumeOrder":9,"chapterOrder":56,"order":486},{"title":488,"slug":489,"type":424,"volume":425,"volumeOrder":9,"chapterOrder":62,"order":491},{"title":493,"slug":494,"type":424,"volume":425,"volumeOrder":9,"chapterOrder":71,"order":496},{"title":498,"slug":499,"type":424,"volume":425,"volumeOrder":9,"chapterOrder":80,"order":501},{"title":503,"slug":504,"type":424,"volume":507,"volumeOrder":15,"chapterOrder":9,"order":506},{"title":509,"slug":510,"type":424,"volume":507,"volumeOrder":15,"chapterOrder":15,"order":512},{"title":514,"slug":515,"type":424,"volume":507,"volumeOrder":15,"chapterOrder":20,"order":517},{"title":519,"slug":520,"type":424,"volume":507,"volumeOrder":15,"chapterOrder":25,"order":522},{"title":524,"slug":525,"type":424,"volume":507,"volumeOrder":15,"chapterOrder":30,"order":527},{"title":529,"slug":530,"type":424,"volume":507,"volumeOrder":15,"chapterOrder":35,"order":532},{"title":534,"slug":535,"type":424,"volume":507,"volumeOrder":15,"chapterOrder":45,"order":537},{"title":129,"slug":539,"type":424,"volume":507,"volumeOrder":15,"chapterOrder":50,"order":541},{"title":543,"slug":544,"type":424,"volume":507,"volumeOrder":15,"chapterOrder":56,"order":546},{"title":548,"slug":549,"type":424,"volume":507,"volumeOrder":15,"chapterOrder":62,"order":551},{"title":553,"slug":554,"type":424,"volume":507,"volumeOrder":15,"chapterOrder":71,"order":556},{"title":558,"slug":559,"type":424,"volume":507,"volumeOrder":15,"chapterOrder":80,"order":561},{"title":563,"slug":564,"type":424,"volume":567,"volumeOrder":20,"chapterOrder":9,"order":566},{"title":569,"slug":570,"type":424,"volume":567,"volumeOrder":20,"chapterOrder":15,"order":572},{"title":574,"slug":575,"type":424,"volume":567,"volumeOrder":20,"chapterOrder":20,"order":577},{"title":579,"slug":580,"type":424,"volume":567,"volumeOrder":20,"chapterOrder":25,"order":582},{"title":584,"slug":585,"type":424,"volume":567,"volumeOrder":20,"chapterOrder":30,"order":587},{"title":589,"slug":590,"type":424,"volume":567,"volumeOrder":20,"chapterOrder":35,"order":592},{"title":594,"slug":595,"type":424,"volume":567,"volumeOrder":20,"chapterOrder":45,"order":597},{"title":599,"slug":600,"type":424,"volume":567,"volumeOrder":20,"chapterOrder":50,"order":602},{"title":604,"slug":605,"type":424,"volume":567,"volumeOrder":20,"chapterOrder":56,"order":607},{"title":609,"slug":610,"type":424,"volume":567,"volumeOrder":20,"chapterOrder":62,"order":612},{"title":614,"slug":615,"type":424,"volume":567,"volumeOrder":20,"chapterOrder":71,"order":617},{"title":619,"slug":620,"type":424,"volume":567,"volumeOrder":20,"chapterOrder":80,"order":622},{"title":624,"slug":625,"type":424,"volume":567,"volumeOrder":20,"chapterOrder":89,"order":627},{"title":629,"slug":630,"type":424,"volume":567,"volumeOrder":20,"chapterOrder":98,"order":632},{"title":634,"slug":635,"type":424,"volume":567,"volumeOrder":20,"chapterOrder":107,"order":637},{"title":639,"slug":640,"type":424,"volume":567,"volumeOrder":20,"chapterOrder":112,"order":642},{"title":644,"slug":645,"type":424,"volume":648,"volumeOrder":25,"chapterOrder":9,"order":647},{"title":650,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